quick fix

Sep. 2nd, 2010 11:59 am
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[personal profile] davemerrill
So LJ in its infinite wisdom has suddenly made it a lot easier for people to re-post your private entries to places that aren't quite so private.
( http://news.livejournal.com/129190.html )

Needless to say, if I post something in a friends-locked post, it contains personal information that I do not want you, ostensibly my friends, to be re-posting to your Facebook or the bulletin board outside your laundromat or anywhere else. It's just rude. So don't do it.

I have cross-posted from here to Facebook before, but at one point it quit asking me with each post and just started posting to Facebook automatically, which I do not want. It's disabled now.

But if you're concerned about the new little "repost to Facebook" button that is appearing in your replies, here's how to get rid of it:

Go to the main menu and click "Journal" then "Journal Style" then "Customize your theme" then "Custom CSS"

This will just show up as a large box, and should be either empty or be full of code.

If it's blank, just copy paste the code and click save

If it has code, skip down one space, copy paste the code and click save.

Here's what you need to paste


/* ---FB-Twitter Comment Ticky Fix--- */
.b-repost-items, .b-repost-item, .b-repost-item IMG, #entry-form-wrapper .b-repost-item, b-repost-item-fb {
display: none;
}

.b-repost-item .repost_disabled {
color: #CCC;
display: none;
}


It seems to be working for me. Credit where credit is due dept: this comes courtesy [livejournal.com profile] pteropusvenom. I guess this is the price Livejournal pays for trying to do all this stuff with open-source software, anybody can get in there and play around.

Additionally, I suggest everyone do what Donny Don't doesn't do and what [livejournal.com profile] disgruntledgrrl does, which is to hit Help up at the top of the page, then go down to Ask A Question and hit "open a support request" and then open a support request by asking if they can make this a feature that can be disabled in the privacy settings. Because this feature really needs to be something that each user can completely opt in our out of on a global basis.

Date: 2010-09-02 04:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tochiro998.livejournal.com
Or, do what the smart kids do.

Don't have a Facebook or Twitter account.

Don't be a lemming, resist!

Remember when MySpace (remember MySpace?) was THE thing? Yeah.

I really have to do that post about the fragging of contextual relationships due to FB and Twitter, and how isolated people are becoming under the guise of 'being connected'.

Date: 2010-09-02 04:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dave-iii.livejournal.com
There's some folks I can only keep in touch with via Facebook, or I'd have dumped it ages ago.

Date: 2010-09-02 07:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] davemerrill.livejournal.com
FB is good for a very limited set of things. There are a lot of people who for whatever reason never got into LJ, but they LURVE Facebook. Go fig. I don't mind being on FB and checking it once a day for updates from whoever, but certainly I am not going to post a big thing here and post another big thing there. Only one narrative at a time, please.

I'm not really worried about personal info getting out onto somebody else's FB. Most of what gets posted on anybody's LJ is forgotten about in a week, even the really juicy stuff, and anybody looking to get butthurt by an LJ post is going to find something to get butthurt about, regardless. What's getting my shorts in a bundle is the casual way it renders private posts un-private. Also FB is jam packed with scams, bots, spambots, and scamming spambots, who will now be working even harder to get into all our Livejournals. thanks guys.

Date: 2010-09-02 08:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dave-iii.livejournal.com
Yeah, that seems to be the core of everyone's complaint, peeling away the knee-jerk reactions (most of which are understandable) and "I'm gonna complain about everything" complaints. Let people share what they WANT to share, and no more.

Date: 2010-09-02 04:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gallo-de-pelea.livejournal.com
Like I said over at my LJ, it has nothing to do with whether *you* have a FB/TW account; other people can still pull this shit on you.

Date: 2010-09-02 06:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tochiro998.livejournal.com
Sure, I grok. so I add "friends don't let Friends Facebook" :)

(see with I did there, 'friends' and 'Friends'? HAW! I am full of the subtle!)

No, seriously. I have a friend who dropped LJ and encouraged people to follow her on FB, without actually putting a link. Since you can't actually FIND someone on FB UNLESS you're signed up, I just figure this is a great big 'fuck off world except those that worship me' or something.

So, yeah. I have no idea if I'm making any sense anymore. YAY!

Date: 2010-09-02 11:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ferricide.livejournal.com
perhaps she was merely ignorant of that fact.

also: it's not true anymore, since FB has updated its user policies. though i don't know how much profile access you can get without an account.

it's more a lazy assumption on her part, i'd guess, since the majority of people she knows signed up to FB.

Date: 2010-09-02 04:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dave-iii.livejournal.com
My Live Journal account doesn't even know I have a Facebook account, and Facebook thinks my Live Journal is my "web page". Seems like an effective deterrent to me.

It TOTALLY WORKS

Date: 2010-09-02 04:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] disgruntledgrrl.livejournal.com
I don't see it in here at all, Cap'n.

FAAAAAACK It does not work

Date: 2010-09-02 05:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] disgruntledgrrl.livejournal.com
If someone is viewing your lj in THEIR style, it still shows up unless they have put this data into their template.

Re: FAAAAAACK It does not work

Date: 2010-09-02 05:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] theweaselking.livejournal.com
Yup. A quick "?style=mine" - like I have a Firefox plugin to add by default to all LJ URLs because other people's aesthetic decisions are hideous - and suddenly the boxes are back. Or would be back, if the same firefox plugin didn't remove 'em. But yeah.

Re: FAAAAAACK It does not work

Date: 2010-09-09 12:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bluehorse.livejournal.com
Okay, I'm kinda stupid about this stuff, so please bear with me. I followed the directions, but when I go to my friends pages and hit comment, the buttons still show up. Does this mean that when they go to my posts and comment, the buttons don't show?

(Also, all but one of my entries is friends only, in the faint hope of keeping my private life private.)

Date: 2010-09-02 07:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ferricide.livejournal.com
i don't get why this would even matter. even if someone posts a link to your locked journal entry it's... locked. if someone is directed to it who shouldn't have access, they'll hit a wall. right? am i missing something?

Date: 2010-09-02 08:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] davemerrill.livejournal.com
LJ is saying that the locked journal entries will not be visible to people without access:

Please note that you can choose to have comments posted to protected entries cross-posted to Facebook and/or Twitter, and the text of those comments will appear to all your followers on those sites, but clicking the link will not show the full entry to anyone who does not have access to view it. The cross-posting options will automatically be unchecked when commenting to a Friends Only or Private post, so that no protected comments are sent to Facebook or Twitter by accident.

Of course, if somebody quotes your locked post in their comment, and then publishes the comment to FB, there it is. Not that they couldn't do that anyway with a few cuts-and-pastes, but this new process makes it easier.

Date: 2010-09-02 08:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gallo-de-pelea.livejournal.com
Even without direct quotes, there's the matter of a public FB update appearing that reads something like: "Facebook user Jane responded to Livejournal user Jill in LJ community eating_disorder_help", followed by the text of Jane's comment to Jill's heavily filtered post...

Date: 2010-09-02 08:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gallo-de-pelea.livejournal.com
(oops, meant to respond directly, there)

Date: 2010-09-02 10:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ferricide.livejournal.com
yeah, that's a good point.

Date: 2010-09-02 10:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ferricide.livejournal.com
okay, so, it's not gonna be an issue for me at all, but as [livejournal.com profile] gallo_de_pelea points out, it could share some vague but not-intended-to-be-public info, potentially.

btw, i don't see any need to hack it out of lj, since you can just turn it off in options, but again -- i may be missing something here.

Date: 2010-09-02 08:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tochiro998.livejournal.com
What I'm getting is a. it lets everyone read the locked post b. it lets everyone read the comments to the locked post which alerts people there IS a post or some combo of both.

Date: 2010-09-02 09:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] davemerrill.livejournal.com
I think it's more 'b' than 'a'. Still, 'b' is more than anybody wants, really.

Date: 2010-09-02 11:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ferricide.livejournal.com
i don't think it's really either a or b -- what it does is potentially alert The Wide World to the fact that one has either (a) posted a locked entry (which may be in a community or have a title that the poster would not like public) or (b) alert The Wide World that one has commented in (a) someone else's locked entry or community, same effect.

so not much content escapes.

i kind of expect them to fix it, and it sure won't affect my life, but, uh, yeah, it's an example of how things at lj tend to be a bit haphazard.

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