super-nope

[davemerrill]

Wow, just read Mark Waid's review of MAN OF STEEL and it's got a spoiler in it and I'm glad I read the spoiler because it saved me spending $12.50 on the movie.

You can go read it for yourself, I won't discuss it here.

http://thrillbent.com/blog/man-of-steel-since-you-asked/

I'm not a big super hero fan by any means, but there are fundamental things that super-heroes should be, bottom-line reasons they exist, and it looks like the people handling those characters now definitely don't get it.

I was on the fence anyways; not a fan of Zack Snyder, am iffy on the whole ethics of how Warners acquired the character, and am not happy with the failure of both Warners and Marvel/Disney to adequately address their responsibilities to the creative legacy of their cash-cow intellectual properties.

So yeah, this was pretty much the third strike here. I may not ever see another super-hero movie in the theater ever again. Not that that is a problem, really. I'm a guy in my 40s; I also don't spend a lot of money on Charms Blo-Pops, baseball cards, Slurpees, or Snap 'n' Pops.

EDITED TO ADD:
There's no Jimmy Olsen? To hell with you, movie.

Comments

[mr-sadhead.livejournal.com]

They've got the rights and the money and they are going to make more money, do they have to shit on people to make their films nowadays?

[tochiro998.livejournal.com]

Yes. Also, shit on the subject as well. Note that I am not a big fan of the Nolan Bat Films. Probably makes me apostate or something. :)

[tochiro998.livejournal.com]

Yeah, I read it and just... what's so hard to understand about Superman? He's supposed to be a nice guy. There's things he just won't do because he was raised by the Kents to believe certain things, and he's made it his creed. He's the light to Batman's darkness. Blah blah.

As others have said, what's so wrong about Superman being a 'boy scout' who honestly believes in Truth, Justice and the American Way? Other than in some lights it's so very very not fashionable.

And I still think the costuming sucks. "Hi, I'm Superman and this is my pronounced groinal area. Remember the jokes about me wearing my underwear outside of my clothing? Well, ha ha ha, now my clothing IS underwear! Suck it fanboys!"

I had mild interest in seeing this. Now I really don't feel like dropping $20 (ticket, popcorn and pop) on it at all. And if it tanks, guess what? Warner Bros won't understand! They'll just assume that a. nobody likes Superman anymore and b. maybe that superhero boom is over now.

Then Thor 2 will rake in 3/4 of a Billion and really confuse them.

Oh who am I kidding, a movie like this will probably do huge overseas. Big, loud, flashy. I expect huge box office around the world.

[davemerrill.livejournal.com]

I think the property is in the hands of people who are embarrassed by the idea that CHILDREN might like their super-characters who bend steel in their bare hands etc. They have no idea how excited kids get when they hear the "Batman" TV theme song, bringing joy and wonder to kids is anathema to their dark hearts. It's the day the Grinch stole EVERYTHING.

And then they wonder why kids are so negative all the time. Well, jesus, look what you're feeding them! You can't even have a guy in a blue suit and a red cape rescuing cats from trees and lying down on the train tracks so the train can roll over him, it's got to be city-destroying brick-breaking smashing all day long. All dark hateful vengeance revenge fantasies given to us by people who have never suffered a day in their lives, except that Wednesday that the Diamond delivery was delayed and they had to wait until Thursday for their comic books.

Seriously, we're dealing with characters who were created by men who lived through the Depression and WWII. They had REAL TRAGEDY in their lives, they knew what injustice and starvation and bullets did to people, and did they want that in their super-hero comics? No sir. No reason for it. Enough darkness and hate in real life without having to drag children's super people through it.

Enough with this super serious joyless pomposity already. Your guy wears a blue suit with a big S on it. GET OVER YOURSELVES.

[ferricide.livejournal.com]

i really liked batman begins at the time but i think i'm beginning to agree with you, actually. the third batman movie was really pretty terrible -- the way it tried to wrestle with occupy in a vague way that it couldn't do in any sort of MEANINGFUL way and just completely fumbled. maybe popular protest movements aren't in fact batman material. what a disaster.

[davemerrill.livejournal.com]

there's a limit as to how "realistic" they can get with the idea of people putting on masks to enforce their own personal moral codes. In real life, this means the KKK. Nolan's Batman, I think, is not going to age well.

[warpig1979.livejournal.com]

Pretty much any time I walk into a gas station, I will still buy a Charms Blow-Pop if they have them for sale.

this movie can go screw though.

[tochiro998.livejournal.com]

I guess what I am to understand is, at least in the eyes of some, this is really Smallville the Motion Picture.

That would explain much, as I never really liked Smallville. I didn't like the whole "let's be cute with DC characters, have the Justice League without calling it that, nobody has a costume, HA HA because superhero costumes are STOOPID but leather is cool" crap.